WLS-TV Poll

Confirming previous results

Democrats
Obama 28
Hull 21
Hynes 17
Pappas 11
Undecided 14

Republicans
Jack! 45
Angry-Anti-Immigrant Ice Cream Guy 13
McKenna 10
Rauschenberger 7
Undecided 21

The differences we see in these polls is probably due to their sampling methodology and more importantly how they calculate likely voters. I’d say the Republican race is clear.

The Democratic race is going to hinge on turnout, though I think some of the comments for other posts bring up important points, one thing is missing. African-American candidates can generally rely upon good turnout from African-Americans. So Obama has two groups with which he is concerned for turnout. In the African-American community he needs the Jacksons to ramp up the downstate turnout and can use any help there. And he needs to convert votes on the South Side where there is tension between him, Bobby Rush and some of the South Side African-American ministers. Such disaffection might not lead to high support for other candidates, but it could lead to lower turnout. The big issue for Obama in relation to turnout are those supporting him in other areas–liberals and women. He has to target them without much organizational support because those areas are dominated by regular machine organizations or unions. His support from teaching unions is a big help as is the SEIU endorsement, but ultimately he has to hope for decent turnout in areas where he is organizationally weak.

Hynes has the opposite problem. He needs voters who aren’t tied to organizations to turn out for him.

Hull has his own organization, though figuring out who are the likely supporters gets very confused given the fluid nature of his problems.

Pappas needs women, women, women to turn out in the city and burbs.

On the Republican side, only a miracle by Raushenberger’s legislative allies can pull out a surprise. Oberweiss and McKenna are dead in the water. Rauschenberger is farther behind, but has organizational support. Even that is unlikely to do much in this race.

UPDATE: The Pappas campaign just clued me into this poll being taken between 2/24 – 3/4 so it is really hard to tell how representative the sample is–a response on March 4th wouldn’t be the same as a response on February 24 given the fluid nature of the race.

To help everyone sort out these numbers, I’ll do a bit on polling in the next day or two that explains the different types of polls.

From the Grassroots: Hull Endorsement

Note–this is a series of endorsements from grassroots supporters of US Senate Candidates–meaning the opinions expressed are not mine. And please play nice in comments for these.

If you are a grassroots supporter–meaning not a part of the official apparatus (volunteers are fine) feel free to submit one. I reserve the right to edit for blatant falsehoods and anything legally actionable as well as good taste, but the vast majority will go up as submitted. The following is from guest blogger ArmChairPundit.
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Blair Hull receives my endorsement for the democratic nominee to the U.S. Senate from Illinois.

In a state where politics is the ultimate insider?s game, where the great combine has ruled the state for decades, and where democracy is all but dead in its largest city, Hull is a true outsider. His life has been full and complicated, but there is a progressive heart at its core. His actions and experiences may not have been legislative or governmental, but they have made a significant impact on the world in which we live, improving the lives of many, particularly women, gay men and lesbians.
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What the Hell is a Pantagraph

Well, in my youth it was a right wing reactionary rag that screwed up every story it printed. The single best example was the bold headline “Satanic Worship Comes to Central Illinois” on the front page. The story asserted that satanic worshippers had killed a sheep and who knows what else. About a week later a second page retraction was printed noting that a farmers dog had simply had a snack one day. Details.

The joke was that along with the Post Amerikan, Bloomington-Normal residents were blessed with the single worst right wing paper and the single worst left wing paper. Since then the Pantagraph has been sold to the Pulitzer group and has improved.

But what is a Pantagraph? The Pantagraph reports:

The Pantagraph’s name is derived from the Greek words “panta” and “grapho,” which have a combined meaning of “write all things.” Charles Merriman is the man responsible for giving The Pantagraph its name. In the words of Merriman, the name is “a perpetual injunction upon its editors to dip their pens fearlessly into all matters of human interest.” When Merriman named The Pantagraph on December 1, 1853, he was a co-owner of the paper with Jesse Fell. The Pantagraph’s previous name was “The Intelligencer.”

Second Presidential Poll

After the WEEK-TV/Pantagraph poll, it appears another poll confirms the deficit that Bush is facing in Illinois with a Daily Southtown poll putting Kerry at 52, Bush at 39.

A couple things–Karl Rove’s historic reallignment doesn’t seem to be working. Sorry Karl. You might win this election, but you aren’t going to create a long lasting legacy.

Jack Ryan needs to take down all of his Bush references and run away as fast as possible from the man.

The Illinois Center Right Coalition will eventually learn that subtracting moderate Republicans doesn’t put you on the road to victory–it puts you on the road to marginalization. Grover is a bit too cocky for his own good. Illinois will be one of those places where he puts movement conservatives into a minority position for a long time. Movement conservatives will soon purify the Republican Party all the while they lose any chance at power. For humors sake we can only hope they get Patrick O’Malley into the Governor’s race next time.

Pappas Feedback

The Pappas campaign doesn’t like the judgment of her commercials, but they report lots of good feedback from viewers for her new commercials both from Illinois and surrounding states that really like the ads. So to be fair, take a look at one of the ads as Maria Pappas’ web site.

They also pointed me to a nice profile of her in Today’s Chicago Woman

Do I think Pappas can still win? Err….not very easily, though a scenario of well placed ads hitting undecided women as Hull comes down was the only scenario I could imagine about a week ago and, well, it could happen. The problem is the free media coverage any candidate needs is not likely to be fawning given her performance in the debates and to overcome the Hull saturation just to be heard is very hard at this point. It seems more likely that Obama will benefit from that demographic, while Hynes is likely to pick up any white males downstate. The big disclaimer there is the Hull divorce issue hasn’t been nearly as big of a deal downstate as it was in the Chicago market.

Having seen the ad linked to on her front page, I think it is a decent ad for an introductory ad–so it makes sense in Southern Illinois where it is supposed to be playing soon, but in Cook and surrounding areas where she has name ID, it is doesn’t do much to win voters familiar with her.