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The After Zell

Eric Zorn has the transcripts up of Zell’s appearances on Hardball and CNN

I saw both, the CNN was more damning in many ways. MSNBC was entertaining, but not nearly as substantive. Blitzer actually called on his expertise covering the Pentagon and cornered Miller on the B-2 and the F-14. The Apache was also included as I recall and we saw the exact problem of the Apache in Kosovo where it’s heavy deployment footprint makes it hard to use in an armed forces that needs to be highly mobile. The B-2 is virtually useless except in a large scale nuclear war–not unlike the B-1 that is marginally useful only after retrofits. The F-117 is far more effective in delivering conventional weapons as a stealth aircraft. The programs stick around because defense contractors spread their development around to enough Congressional districts.

As far as I can tell, Greenfield stopped asking questions because he was laughing when I watched.

Then Again

Zell Miller’s performance on Hardball is pretty damn close to as crazy as Keyes.

You’ll have to choose the Miller Interview. Larry Gatlin later was pretty classy heckling back at the crowd too.

And for goodness sakes–what does the MX,the B-1, the Apache or the biggest boondoggle and safety hazard to our troops, the Harrier have to do with keeping America safe now? Or even then?

The MX is now useless. The B-1 was useless within a few years of being operational, the Apache is an unreliable attack helicopter.

UPDATED: Removed bit about the Harrier–Xan points out I was confused with the Osprey. It was late.

But apparently the Harrier wasn’t much better–thanks Ralph

UPDATE 2: Actually, this reminds me that the Osprey was supposed to replace the Harrier–thus the votes to kill the Harrier were to usher in the next generation of jets.

I Can’t Stop

Channel 2 has Judy’s reaction and it is priceless (video)

Channel 5 has the quotes:

“We should look [homosexuality] right in the eye,” Keyes said. “It is a self-centered, selfish, self-oriented pursuit of pleasure. If my own daughter were a homosexual or a lesbian, I would love my daughter but I would tell my daughter that she was in sin.”

Former Gov. Jim Thompson was very harsh in his criticism of Keyes, Kay reported.

“I think the people of Illinois would find those kinds of remarks offensive and I think it’s an offense to the political process that we have to suffer a candidate on our ticket who says things like that,” Thompson said. “So it is not something that I as a voter would put up with, and I don’t think the people of Illinois will put up with it, either.”

Republican Illinois Congresswoman Judy Biggert, an abortion-rights Republican, was equally offended.

“I think it is shameful — I really do,” she said. “I think he should apologize. This is destroying everything that we’ve been building.”

Former Gov. Jim Edgar chairs the president’s re-election campaign in Illinois.

“It is an unfortunate thing. I think it takes away from the real issues in this campaign.”

Illinois Party Chairman Judy Baar Topinka minced no words.

“You don’t attack other people’s children,” she said. “I can’t stand behind that kind of an idiotic comment — that is exactly what it is, idiotic. If somebody went after my son, you know I would go for the jugular. You just don’t do that.”

Damn….Cross Comments on Keyes

I had a great gag set up where I linked to a Google News Search with “alan keyes” and “tom cross” and noted that none of them have Cross commenting on Keyes. Today, Cross got caught and the Trib has his comments.

State Rep. Tom Cross, the House Republican leader, joked with reporters about the length of Keyes’ lease on his apartment in Calumet City.

“My suspicion is we will see and hear from candidate Keyes for the next 60 days, and after that he’ll probably be out of Illinois,” Cross said.

Whomever has been keeping Cross away from this deserves a raise.

Channel 5 has his more serious comments

“When you start to talk about an individual, especially someone’s daughter, and personalize it, you’re going into territory that a lot of people find offensive,” he said. “Stating your position is one thing — personalizing it is probably not the right way to handle it. It’s not something I would have done.”