At What Point is it the Tet Offensive

The Tet Offensive was a military defeat for the North Vietnamese, but a victory in getting across the point that a long war of attrition was going to continue for as long as one could imagine.

With a full civil war on the verge in Iraq and everyone besides Fox News understanding the current situation is dire, one important point is being left out.

When South Vietnam was overrun, there was no fear it would be a failed state. The Soviet Union provided it with resources and ensured it was largely a functioning state—to the point it was able to invade Cambodia.

One thought in Iraq is that we can leave and just let the situation sort itself out, but the very real problem now that we are stuck in a war that shouldn’t have happened, and more importantly , when it did happen, the Administration created new levels of FUBAR, is that leaving may well mean Iraq turns into a failed state and a potential staging ground for terrorism and all sorts of pesky situations involving Iraqi neighborhs including Iran and Turkey which both might make land grabs if the Iraqi state was never to effectively be established.

The consequences to American security are far greater than in Vietnam. There leaving meant we simply worked to contain further expansion of the Soviet Bloc by using Thailand and other allies.

In this case, Iraq could fall completely apart and be divided up by neighbors or it could become a staging area for Al Qaeda. At the same time, there appears to be no effective means bring Iraq under control.

So what do you do? I have no idea at this point. After screwing up the initial security arrangements and continuing with delusional strategies based on delusional thinking it is increasingly clear that there are no effective means to stop the spiral of violence in Iraq. Setting benchmarks for withdrawal won’t seem to work given the chaos on the ground virtually guarantees that any benchmarks won’t be met and if they can’t be met, there is no real exit strategy.

3 thoughts on “At What Point is it the Tet Offensive”
  1. How about a novel idea and letting folks who have a history of helping with failing states, post military conflicts, and either civil wars or potential civil wars have a legitimate role in the process….the UN. Granted strong international support will be needed which means letting US-friendly corporations off of the purse-strings of all contracts. Wouldn’t trying to do something properly for the human rights of the most amount of people maybe be a better goal for everyone involved? Why hasn’t the left or middle made a stronger argument for UN involvement post mainstream recognition of all of the screw-ups?

  2. Probably because they don’t want to be slandered as “UN pussies.”

    I’m old enough to remember when “Get US out of UN” was the sign of a certifiable kook. Now it’s the sign of a mainstream right-winger. Scary.

    It’s interesting to me how the war has driven Iraq into Iran’s arms, just 15 years after they concluded a horrible, bloody war.

  3. The ideal solution is the partition of Iraq into independent states unfiied by a European Union style common market that actually owns all the oil and disperses the proceeds by population. Even more ideal is to bring the rest of the middle east into it on the same terms.

    On the plus side is that at least Iran is not a fan of Al Queda. The other plus side of Iran is that when they are not being pushed against a wall they tend towards more secular democratic politics.

    The biggest current danger of the civil war (for the U.S., of course, not the people who must suffer through it) is the interruption of Saudi and Iranian oil production and transport facilities by Al Queda.

    Just as the U.S. allies itself with the government of Saudi Arabia, we would probably be better served by allying with Iran. But that’s short term oil politics. We really need to unload the oil economy and get on with the solar/nuclear electric economy.

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