June 2005

8th’s McSweeney: Reported rapes and incest

Fascinating discussion in the Leader on Dave McSweeney’s view of when abortion is acceptable:

IL: You do allow for exceptions for abortion – the life of the mother and in the case of reported rape and incest, is that right?

M: Life of the mother, and reported cases of rape and incest. But what I?ve also said is that if on the final text of legislation rape and incest exceptions are not included, I would still vote for it. The reason I would vote for it is I think it?s imperative that we protect the unborn and I?ve been consistent and won?t back down from the view that in the cases of reported rape and incest.

IL: What makes the value of a baby?s life different if it was conceived as the result of reported rape or incest?

M: The distinction is whether it has been reported – not a question of the baby?s value. It insures that an incident has occurred. There have been stories and concerns in the past that someone could just say they were raped or a victim of incest. That creates too broad of an exception up to that point. That?s where I?m drawing the distinction – why I use the word ?reported.? Someone has to actually go to a police department and then be in a situation of reporting.

So taking this further—umm..so what if the police find it to be unfounded? Is the police department then to decide whether an abortion can take place?

Or more fun in trying to control women’s bodies, what definition of rape are we going to use? Does it have to be an aggravated sexual assault? Or just a lessor offense? Do the police have to agree? Or do we get to have a fun game of trying to figure out if it’s a false report? Do you prosecute false reports? And how do you know if it isn’t a rape that results in significant physical damage?

While I usually don’t buy that most pro-lifers just want to control women, the result of this kind of crap will almost certainly lead to just such a thing and resemble the Handmaid’s Tale a lot closer than anyone would like to admit.

At What Point Does Israel…

Just tell crazy evangelicals to go bug some other country

JERUSALEM — More than two decades ago, John Brown grew mesmerized by an evangelical preacher’s theory that the Bible hinted at a major oil field deep beneath Israel’s soil.

Now, armed with unshakable faith and millions of dollars from American Evangelicals, Brown is leading a major exploration he hopes will uncover a reservoir of black gold in a New Jersey-sized country that produces only 80 barrels of oil a day.

”It’s my destiny in life to come to Israel and help the people of Israel become energy independent,” Brown said Monday.

And then see them all die at the Rapture.

Knox Speech

Many have linked to it now, but the end of it was especially impressive:

Today, on this day of possibility, we stand in the shadow of a lanky, raw-boned man with little formal education who once took the stage at Old Main and told the nation that if anyone did not believe the American principles of freedom and equality were timeless and all-inclusive, they should go rip that page out of the Declaration of Independence.

My hope for all of you is that you leave here today with the will to keep these principles alive in your own life and the life of this country. They will be tested by the challenges of this new century, and at times we may fail to live up to them. But know that you have it within your power to try. That generations who have come before you faced these same fears and uncertainties in their own time. And that though our labor, and God?s providence, and our willingness to shoulder each other?s burdens, America will continue on its precious journey towards that distant horizon, and a better day.

Was John Kerry a Republican Plant?

Because I have no idea why this idiot didn’t release his Navy record which appears to have nothing negative in it.

On May 20, Kerry signed a document called Standard Form 180, authorizing the Navy to send an ”undeleted” copy of his ”complete military service record and medical record” to the Globe. Asked why he delayed signing the form for so long, Kerry said in a written response: ”The call for me to sign a 180 form came from the same partisan operatives who were lying about my record on a daily basis on the Web and in the right-wing media. Even though the media was discrediting them, they continued to lie. I felt strongly that we shouldn’t kowtow to them and their attempts to drag their lies out.”

You idiot, by not releasing the records you let them drag their lies out.

Aging Boomer

Looks like the Web Guys are having fun with Eric:

” Sick of ‘classic’ oldies
Aging boomer Eric Zorn is thrilled that WJMK has adopted the new “Jack-FM” format. “

Jack sucks. Here in St. Louis they renamed it the Arch and I thought it might have some, I don’t know, good music from the past–no. It was like growing up in Central Illinois with the musical diversity being Top 35 and and classic rock. The only thing that saved me was WXRT was on satellite and my cable company carried it.

When Courts Get the Tech Right

I haven’t followed the Washington trial over the vote in the Governor’s race very closely, so I was surprised to read that ecological inference was even being attempted given the circumstances.

The problem of ecological inference is one of the bigger problems in trying to determine how people vote in political science. Simply put, given individual vote choice isn’t available to scientists other than as exit polling, one has to utilize precint level voting returns as the lowest level of analysis to study voting behavior (different though correlated to surveys of political beliefs).

The problem is that one cannot reliably infer the behavior of individuals from a group behavior. If all you have is information concerning the aggregated group, one cannot make inferences about the individuals within the group or how they behave.

To give a fairly simple example, if one has an integrated precinct with 50% black and 50% white voters, one is unable to make any meaningful analysis of vote choice by race unless everyone votes in one way. If the final vote choice is heterogenous, one doesn’t know how individiuals voted and that means one couldn’t determine how people vote by race in such a case without an exit poll.

The reason we know a lot about black voting behavior is that America is, in a scientific sense, conveniently segregated so precincts with large numbers of African-Americans tend to only have African-Americans (please–no examples of your neighborhood–my precinct is about 50-50 and it’s an abberation).

So, the Rossi camp finds Jonathan Katz, a very talented methodologist at the California Institute of Technology to argue for an idea called proportional reduction in dealing with votes by felons that shouldn’t have occurred. He suggested simply taking the number of votes in such precincts and then reducing the number proportionally for all of the likely illegal votes in that precinct for both sides. So if Gregoire got 60% of the vote, take the total number of likely illegal votes and reduce her total by 60% of the illegal votes and reduce Rossi’s vote by 40% of the total likely illegal votes.

It’s attractive to Republicans because it reduces her totals more than his totals.

The problem is that it is statistical incompetence and so the judge ruled this morning that commits the ecological fallacy that one can determine individual behavior by aggregate statistics.

Katz’s argument was essentially that since there is limited information, making a choice based on that limited information is the best one could do–so being ‘fair’ was by assuming that felon votes were entirely independent of any factor other than geography. Such an assumption is ludicrous–it contains no information about race, gender, income, church attendance or a wide array of demographics that affect vote choice.

The argument that any information–such as geography in this case–should be used to determine how to count votes in such a case is one that essentially leads to a basic point in how we count votes–namely not counting votes.

The simple answer is that with the information available, there is no way to fairly distribute the votes between candidates. Without individual information or a large amount of specific information about the precincts and people in them where actual ecological inference techniques could be used with at least some ability to gauge the reliability of the stats, no court and no political scientist should be making conclusions about a fair distribution of those votes. To do so is statistical incompetence. One might argue for a particular hypothesis, but no one should be able to make the argument that they have reasonably confident conclusions based simply on geography.

Even with more data, one would have to be especially cautious. As Gary King, the political scientist who literaly wrote the book on ecological inference says:

Because the ecological inference problem is caused by the lack of individual-level information, no method of ecological inference, including that introduced in this book, will produce precisely accurate results in every instance.

What Katz would do is make an assumption about voters who were felons and how they voted with no information except geography to inform that assumption. For Republicans to argue for such a methodology is bizarre given their complaints over well understood techniques for oversampling in relation to the Census which would be on far better statistical ground than Katz’s idea.

While such techniques may have been utilized in other cases, that doesn’t make the technique anymore reliable or reasonable, it makes such cases as warning signs against junk science.

Kosel Challenger in McQueary’s Column

Chris is all upset about a crimp in his style, but despite those problems, he points to Kristen McQueary’s column that brings up Renee Kosel’s challenger, Chris MacNeil. MacNeils’ first site was MacNeilforCongress.com–oddly out of place for a state lege race, but more importantly had a really creepy picture of Pat O’Malley.

The funniest line from the current set of issues is:

Issue #3: A pro-Life / pro-Family agenda.

Chris is unafraid to proclaim opinions on issues of abortion, embryonic stem cell research, expansion of gambling, pornography, and other areas that directly affect Illinois families.

“Unafraid to proclaim opinions”

We know the answers given his allies, but wouldn’t someone who is unafraid, oh, take a position on his issues page related to these subjects?

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