Sometimes Civility Requires Incivility

Charles Madigan is one of my favorite columnists and sometimes bloggers along with Lynn Sweet and Eric Zorn. Today he writes about the need to put petty political issues aside to deal with larger issues we face:

The big question now is how are we going to handle these challenges, this president’s failures.

We can back him into the corner and watch him scramble, or we can rise above that and look for common bonds, interests and values that advance a more noble cause, the interest of the United States, not just the passing interests of political parties.

That we have already seen in abundance.

I don’t take this as a Broderesque appeal to the center for all things wise especially since Madigan points out he thinks much of the President’s agenda is wrong. However, there is a problem that I think many haven’t dealt with in this Presidency that we haven’t seen since Nixon.

I’m all for disagreeing respectfully and some of the time I even try to keep the tone here that way. Well, sometimes. That said, this administration is trying to institute an imperial presidency. It has overreached on Presidential Authority and cast aside the fundamental document to our social contract, the Constitution.

It is the height of incivility to attack our social contract as he has done and he has had willing accomplices from much of his supporters throughout this period who paint even those who disagree civilly as appeasing terrorists or providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

It’s also true that such “they started it “talk doesn’t solve the problem, but the problem isn’t going to be solved as long as George Bush is in office. He has made an art form of sliming his opponents and questioning their patriotism. Bush is incivil and he continues to try manipulate the country through every tool at his disposal–legal or not. Worse, any criticism of him is automatically met with character assassination of the person criticizing him. Bill Clinton’s spin machine was bad, but amateurish compared to the institutions the right has built up to control the debate.

I’ll take it one step further though and I’d suggest that toxicity of our politics is an institutional feature that is bound to happen under certain circumstances. Many of us who grew up watching Bob Michel and others work through compromises across the aisle think of a better time in our politics and bemoan the loss of civility between the parties. I don’t think we or the politicians have changed much, but the electoral consequences have. The Republicans in the late 1980s were largely a permanent minority party and there was little notion that they would become dominant in Congress and so the two parties were able to work together because Republicans needed to to have any influence and Democrats perceived no threat.

Today, it is clear that every major election is up for grabs and so the partisan fighting is especially intense because the stakes are far higher.

Democrats and those more generally center left should try to be civil, but when the stakes and dangers of this Presidency are so great, being shrill is hardly my biggest concern.

Atrios Has it Another Way

Hilarious

Buh-Biden

Volumes could be written about all that was wrong with what Biden said about Obama, but I believe we’ve just witnessed the shortest presidential run in history.

There’s long been a meme that Obama had never run a tough campaign and couldn’t take punches. What has become apparent to me in watching his team work is that it’s more like some bizarre form of jujitsu where Obama is attacked, but the attack is used against the attacker making Obama look above the fray and people like Joe Biden look like the fools they are.

And Clean Too!–Today’s Tosser

Joe Biden demonstrates to us as he will many, many more times in this campaign, why he will never win the nomination, but will provide a fun target for humor:

Mr. Biden is equally skeptical—albeit in a slightly more backhanded way—about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

But—and the “but” was clearly inevitable—he doubts whether American voters are going to elect “a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,” and added: “I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.”

Clean? WTF?

And, of course, Obama has been giving fairly detailed speeches on the war and a new strategy since at least November of 2005.

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Perhaps Mr. Ailes Could Publicly Apologize

Apparently Obama’s team isn’t being nice to the poor people at Fox News. It seems that some of them are just innocent bystanders who are being hurt.

But most of all, Obama needs Fox News so he better play ball.

Let me remind everyone, Fox News reported a vicious and obviously false claim and have not issued a correction—they put it out there that Obama denied the report. There has been no apology and the best they can do is this:

So maybe there was no written apology, but at least John Moody, vice president for news at Fox, issued this missive to staff in his daily editorial note on Jan. 23: “For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC. The urgent queue is our way of communicating information that is air-worthy. Please adhere to this.”

It’s time for a blogger ethics panel. Seriously, the WaPo is saying that at least….

I’ve screwed up on one particular story that was false and particularly damaging had it been true…I apologized and corrected it. Fox News apparently doesn’t have the high standards of even ArchPundit.

Some Senator from Illinois…

Is calling for a withdrawal from Iraq

Essentially it’s very similar to what he proposed in 2005 and even closer to 2006 with a couple notable differences.

First, it doesn’t allow combat troops to remain in the north as he previously would have allowed–and something a President should have flexibility for in a perfect world. Unfortunately, the delusional nature of the Bush administration precludes any sort of daylight on the issue.

Second, it shortens the time frame from his previous plans, but only a little bit. Pulling out quicker would likely be dangerous to our own troops and his estimates are approximately consistent with US military doctrine from what I’ve read.

I’ve been arguing this is the correct strategy for a relatively short time, largely because as Duncan at Eschaton has pointed out, the point isn’t to come up with a magical pony plan, but to change the debate from one of ‘in some magical world where we weren’t ruled by children’ plan to get the fuck out plan. This is a get the fuck out plan.

Daily Dolt

Peter LaBarbera

I’m sure Petey will be a repeat winner and it’s somewhat surprising it took him this long:

The website eMarketer.com reports a recent Harris Interactive online survey of 2,500 adults (18 or older) shows more proportionate weekly use of the sites Friendster and MySpace, and more hourly time on YouTube and Craigslist. At 32 percent, nearly twice as many homosexual and transgender respondents said they were online 24-168 hours per week, compared with 18 percent of heterosexuals.

Americans for Truth president Peter LaBarbera says the article doesn’t mention one major reason for the difference in numbers. “Of course what the article doesn’t say is that it’s a big part of their illicit life,” he asserts. “That’s what the Internet has enabled. The Internet is ideally suited to help uniting people practicing deviance.”

And who knows more about deviance than Petey Labarbera!