March 2003

Let’s Talk Torture

In a small sign of hope that John Burge will be brought to justice for torture, Gordon B. Nash Jr. served as chief of the special prosecution division in 1977 and 1978 was appointed to the investigation.

Whether the US should torture people is an assanine question. What do you get from torture? Lot’s of made up garbage, as has been documented in Illinois.

It isn’t a question of using torture, it is a question of getting rid of it here. Torture is inhumane and ineffective. The only reason to push for it is out of a sense of sadism. Armchair Strangeloves who think we should use it fail to grasp what torture actually does which is create every incentive to end torture whether it is by telling the truth or a lie.

Several weeks ago, Steven Chapman identified the particularly problematic slippery slope issues with allowing torture under some circumstances.

Now, if one is trying to stop a nuke in two hours is torture ok? I’m sure we can forgive the individual who makes that choice, but otherwise, torture is off limits.

Strangelove Moments

Kevin Drum points us to two today:

First, Michael Ledeen suggests ‘fancifully’ that Germany and France are providing cover for radical Islamists and Arabs. (via Digby who states:

Somebody had a little Ecstasy with his Freedom Toast this morning.

In the immortal words of that guy, that’s about right. Indeed.

Kevin’s second case is the Bible Code loon who was actually invited to the Pentagon.

Strangelove was a parody, these fruitcakes aren’t.

Bob Jones on Larry King

Jeanne D’Arc states what my wife had to listen to me rant on about for 10 minutes last night….

So you want to do a show about the Christian response to war. What eminent theologian comes to mind as the ideal person to discuss the complexities of the topic, to analyze and explain the rich Christian tradition in thinking about war and peace. If you said Bob Jones, you apparently think just like Larry King (and you should be ashamed of yourself.)

There is a bit more diversity in Christian thinking than these two represent–far right and friggen right of Randall Terry. But I’m sure Larry worked ’em over hard like usual…

While you are at it check out the Twilight Zone.

Where Is Sellers When We Need Him:New Feature-Stranglove Moments

Blogging at USS Clueless pretending to be Strangelove himself. Apparently the French are stealing our precious bodily fluids and they might just nuke us. As usual one is not enough, and Sellers makes an appearance as James Taranto here. A third Sellers appearance occurs in the comments over at Kieran Healy’s with were he plays two roles at once. In one case he is Strangelove saying:

I’m not quite sure why you think that’s so far fetched. You don’t think that the French would try to provide some help to their ally, Saddam Hussein?

France is Iraq’s ally.

France is not the USA’s ally.

That is under the name Narniaman. The other appearance is as highly rational and terrified Group Captain Lionel Mandrake AKA Kieran Healy (who is probably going to be pissed to be compared to an Englishman) who states:

Stranger things have happened than France nuking the United States? Want to give any examples? The famous rain of frogs in Posset-on-the-Wye in 1537, maybe?

So new feature—send me the best Strangelove moments on the blogs and I post ’em here. Strangelove was a parody, these fruitcakes aren’t.