Comments on: But the Problem is http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/12/09/but-the-problem-is/ Illinois, From Misery Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:34:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Locker http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/12/09/but-the-problem-is/comment-page-1/#comment-18725 Locker Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:51:33 +0000 http://archpundit.com/blog/?p=10926#comment-18725 Well, there's always the off-chance that I'm full of crap. Still, the provisions of the 17th amendment specifically delineate what the legislative branch must do and what the executive branch may do if the legislature allows for it. So maybe this one is different from the others? I dunno, I'm probably talking out of my rear end here. Well, there’s always the off-chance that I’m full of crap.

Still, the provisions of the 17th amendment specifically delineate what the legislative branch must do and what the executive branch may do if the legislature allows for it. So maybe this one is different from the others? I dunno, I’m probably talking out of my rear end here.

]]> By: ArchPundit http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/12/09/but-the-problem-is/comment-page-1/#comment-18704 ArchPundit Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:27:33 +0000 http://archpundit.com/blog/?p=10926#comment-18704 That's not a typical interpretation of what was meant in the 17th Amendment or other similar provisions. Smiley v. Holm holds that states may involve Governors in redistricting with the allowance of a veto--something Illinois also does. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=285&invol=355 That’s not a typical interpretation of what was meant in the 17th Amendment or other similar provisions. Smiley v. Holm holds that states may involve Governors in redistricting with the allowance of a veto–something Illinois also does.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=285&invol=355

]]> By: Locker http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/12/09/but-the-problem-is/comment-page-1/#comment-18701 Locker Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:11:11 +0000 http://archpundit.com/blog/?p=10926#comment-18701 Archpundit - your last statement is incorrect. The 17th amendment to the US Constitution vests the state legislatures with the power of how to set special elections. Each state legislature has the option of allowing its governor to make appointments until a special election is held, as the legislature directs. The Governor has no authority to veto such a measure, as the power is explicitly given to the legislature. It's not a regular law, where the Governor may veto an act of a state legislature. This is a power that is specifically allocated to the legislature - kind of like the right to appoint Presidential Electors. The Governor has no say in the matter beyond that which the legislature grants him. Archpundit – your last statement is incorrect. The 17th amendment to the US Constitution vests the state legislatures with the power of how to set special elections. Each state legislature has the option of allowing its governor to make appointments until a special election is held, as the legislature directs.

The Governor has no authority to veto such a measure, as the power is explicitly given to the legislature.

It’s not a regular law, where the Governor may veto an act of a state legislature. This is a power that is specifically allocated to the legislature – kind of like the right to appoint Presidential Electors. The Governor has no say in the matter beyond that which the legislature grants him.

]]> By: 47th Ward http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/12/09/but-the-problem-is/comment-page-1/#comment-18690 47th Ward Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:32:40 +0000 http://archpundit.com/blog/?p=10926#comment-18690 Agreed. The problem is NOT the process by which Senate vacancies are filled in Illinois (Adlai Stevenson, Alan Dixon), the problem is this governor. Impeach. Now. Other than Hoffman, I don't see who could vote against removing the governor. The special election legislation is like the recall effort, it sounds good but isn't necessary. The General Assembly does not need a new law. It has the power to remove this embarrassment once and for all. No more delays, no more new ideas. We can't simply treat the symptoms, we need to attack the disease. Agreed. The problem is NOT the process by which Senate vacancies are filled in Illinois (Adlai Stevenson, Alan Dixon), the problem is this governor. Impeach. Now. Other than Hoffman, I don’t see who could vote against removing the governor.

The special election legislation is like the recall effort, it sounds good but isn’t necessary. The General Assembly does not need a new law. It has the power to remove this embarrassment once and for all. No more delays, no more new ideas.

We can’t simply treat the symptoms, we need to attack the disease.

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