The Clownshow Continues
Alan Keyes is suing to have Obama declared not a natural born citizen:
The California action was filed by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation on behalf of Alan Keyes, the presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, along with Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson, both California electors.
“Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal,” the action challenges.
The petition is a request for the Superior Court of California in Sacramento County to issue a peremptory writ barring Secretary of State Debra Bowen “from both certifying to the governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.”
It continues with a request for a writ barring California’s electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof is produced.
It’s really hard to be this stupid:
“Since [the Secretary of State] has, as its core, the mission of certifying and establishing the validity of the election process, this writ seeks a Court Order barring SOS from certifying the California Electors until documentary proof that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States of America is received by her,” the document said.
“This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, and any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.
The essential point here is that Hawaii has produced an official document released by Obama. At that point the full faith and credit clause applies and all of this is nonsense.
We are up for at least a full four year term of this craziness.
November 17th, 2008 at
“It’s really hard to be this stupid.”
I was about to say “No it’s not” and link to something re the recent Fran Eaton lie about Rahm Emanuel’s taxes… but then I remembered that even Fran Eaton quit the Keyes campaign back in 2004 because his antics were too much even for her.
PS: This is doubly-stupid in that even if President-elect Obama somehow lost all of California’s Electoral College votes, he still has enough to win the White House.
November 17th, 2008 at
I know all of this is transparently stupid, but as I understand it, the theory is that even if he was born in Hawaii, his time in Indonesia, which does not allow dual citizenship, effectively revoked his U.S. citizenship b/c he lived with his dad as an Indonesian citizen, and he never re-obtained his U.S. Citizenship. Yes, I realize this is all nonsense. What I haven’t seen though, is any analysis taking the argument seriously as a legal argument, and am curious as to why it’s wrong (I haven’t studied any of this closely).
November 17th, 2008 at
Steve,
Here’s a simple test: Would these same legions of anti-Obama partisans be doing the exact same thing if it had been John McCain who had the same life story as Obama (born in Hawaii, immigrant father, moved to Indonesia for a time….)?
The answer is no. No, they would not be going to these lengths to claim that a Republican – ie, John McCain – is somehow less of a citizen than you or I.
November 17th, 2008 at
Pretty much answered here:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
Obama could not renounce his US Citizenship as he was a minor. It’s a bunch of malarky.
November 17th, 2008 at
Rob, of course I understand all of that, I’m just asking what the counterargument is.
Archpundit, the website says you can lose U.S. Citizenship by voluntarily renouncing it. Can’t a guardian or parent do that on your behalf if you are a minor? They can make any other decision concerning you personally. I don’t see why the fact that he’s a minor means that his parent couldn’t “voluntarily renounce” the citizenship by proxy.
Again, I’m just interested in the counterargument to the conspiracy mongering, and I just don’t see it yet. Obviously, you have to accept strained facts, but I’m still curious.
November 17th, 2008 at
===an’t a guardian or parent do that on your behalf if you are a minor?
No, and furthermore, simply because Indonesia doesn’t accept dual citizenship that doesn’t mean the US couldn’t. It’s a giant canard.