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	<title>Comments on: Oversampling Just Isn&#8217;t that Hard to Understand People</title>
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		<title>By: ArchPundit</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/03/27/oversampling-just-isnt-that-hard-to-understand-people/comment-page-1/#comment-13692</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>==At least that’s what my high school math teacher friends tell me they encounter when freshmen show up knowing basic algebra but unable to understand fractions/percentages.

Much more analytical students, but not so much good at basics that you need to make good analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>==At least that’s what my high school math teacher friends tell me they encounter when freshmen show up knowing basic algebra but unable to understand fractions/percentages.</p>
<p>Much more analytical students, but not so much good at basics that you need to make good analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: ArchPundit</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/03/27/oversampling-just-isnt-that-hard-to-understand-people/comment-page-1/#comment-13691</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but the margin of error would have been near 12.

It&#039;s a fairly simple concept that is used quite frequently for small subsamples.  It simply improves the validity of the findings.  

I actually think this is a far more interesting type of polling because it does look closely at a subgroup and their attitudes instead of just giving you a quick yes or no--I wish we did more of it because I think it teaches us a lot more about subgroups than general polling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but the margin of error would have been near 12.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fairly simple concept that is used quite frequently for small subsamples.  It simply improves the validity of the findings.  </p>
<p>I actually think this is a far more interesting type of polling because it does look closely at a subgroup and their attitudes instead of just giving you a quick yes or no&#8211;I wish we did more of it because I think it teaches us a lot more about subgroups than general polling.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramsin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...why did they add the hundred in there? I don&#039;t get it. This is my understanding, tell me if I&#039;m wrong:

The 77 black respondents were kept in the &quot;topline&quot; of the poll, but in order to get a better understanding of what the black population in general thinks, they &quot;re-included&quot; the 100 in the crosstabs, because otherwise the sample would have been too small?

In any case: who cares? It&#039;s a poll, not an election. People&#039;s obsession with polls, particularly so far away from an election and in the middle of a primary fight, are beyond meaningless. The horse race stuff has spiraled out of control. 

Wasn&#039;t the margin of error over 7% anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;why did they add the hundred in there? I don&#8217;t get it. This is my understanding, tell me if I&#8217;m wrong:</p>
<p>The 77 black respondents were kept in the &#8220;topline&#8221; of the poll, but in order to get a better understanding of what the black population in general thinks, they &#8220;re-included&#8221; the 100 in the crosstabs, because otherwise the sample would have been too small?</p>
<p>In any case: who cares? It&#8217;s a poll, not an election. People&#8217;s obsession with polls, particularly so far away from an election and in the middle of a primary fight, are beyond meaningless. The horse race stuff has spiraled out of control. </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t the margin of error over 7% anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: maryb2004</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryb2004</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but ... math is HARD.   And percentages are so ... old fashioned; grade school kids would rather learn algebra.  

At least that&#039;s what my high school math teacher friends tell me they encounter when freshmen show up knowing basic algebra but unable to understand fractions/percentages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but &#8230; math is HARD.   And percentages are so &#8230; old fashioned; grade school kids would rather learn algebra.  </p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s what my high school math teacher friends tell me they encounter when freshmen show up knowing basic algebra but unable to understand fractions/percentages.</p>
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		<title>By: JonShibleyFan</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/03/27/oversampling-just-isnt-that-hard-to-understand-people/comment-page-1/#comment-13573</link>
		<dc:creator>JonShibleyFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man oh man.  The second I read that Chuck Todd piece, I knew, KNEW the oversampling would be the talk of the tubes.

Morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man oh man.  The second I read that Chuck Todd piece, I knew, KNEW the oversampling would be the talk of the tubes.</p>
<p>Morons.</p>
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