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	<title>Comments on: Illinois NOW Tries to Lie It&#8217;s Way Out</title>
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	<description>Illinois, From Misery</description>
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		<title>By: Illinois Bird Watcher</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/02/02/illinois-now-tries-to-lie-its-way-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6935</link>
		<dc:creator>Illinois Bird Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>qwerty - I&#039;m sure gbruhn will jump quickly into this thread just as in the last one and clarify for you...

Obviously you must be looking at &quot;different lists,&quot; since we have been so forcefully informed that in gbrun&#039;s fantasy world, women &quot;NEVER&quot; do such things.

I&#039;m still waiting breathlessly for gbrun&#039;s clarifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>qwerty &#8211; I&#8217;m sure gbruhn will jump quickly into this thread just as in the last one and clarify for you&#8230;</p>
<p>Obviously you must be looking at &#8220;different lists,&#8221; since we have been so forcefully informed that in gbrun&#8217;s fantasy world, women &#8220;NEVER&#8221; do such things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still waiting breathlessly for gbrun&#8217;s clarifications.</p>
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		<title>By: qwerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>qwerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you get it yet..  NOW will reamin silent when a woman does what they criticize a man for because she is a woman.  And yet they are not sexist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you get it yet..  NOW will reamin silent when a woman does what they criticize a man for because she is a woman.  And yet they are not sexist.</p>
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		<title>By: O.F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take part in the debate, I meant to say.

And I totally screwed up my HTML.  The first link is to the debate transcript; the very last part of the link is to the Thomas summary of congressional debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take part in the debate, I meant to say.</p>
<p>And I totally screwed up my HTML.  The first link is to the debate transcript; the very last part of the link is to the Thomas summary of congressional debate.</p>
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		<title>By: O.F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when Blair Hull tried to raise this issue against Obama.  One the interesting things, though, is that Obama was the only Senator opposed to the bill to take part in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  (It starts on page 84.)

One thing to remember about the Illinois &quot;born-alive&quot; bills is that they followed on the heals of federal legislation that basically made the same provisions.  The federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act (H.R. 2175, 107th Congress) passed the Senate by &lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR02175:@@@R&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;, which means that Senator Hillary Clinton made no objection to the bill either.  And, unlike a &quot;present&quot; vote in the Illinois General Assembly, failing to object to unanimous consent means that the bill gets passed -- with Clinton&#039;s support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when Blair Hull tried to raise this issue against Obama.  One the interesting things, though, is that Obama was the only Senator opposed to the bill to take part in the <a href="http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf" rel="nofollow">  (It starts on page 84.)</p>
<p>One thing to remember about the Illinois &#8220;born-alive&#8221; bills is that they followed on the heals of federal legislation that basically made the same provisions.  The federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act (H.R. 2175, 107th Congress) passed the Senate by </a><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR02175:@@@R" rel="nofollow">, which means that Senator Hillary Clinton made no objection to the bill either.  And, unlike a &#8220;present&#8221; vote in the Illinois General Assembly, failing to object to unanimous consent means that the bill gets passed &#8212; with Clinton&#8217;s support.</a></p>
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