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	<title>Comments on: Today&#8217;s Tosser: The Entire Disaster Over at Illinois Review</title>
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		<title>By: Rebecka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, I must have missed something.
&quot;The “vote against America” statement means that someone exercising his or her voting rights in order to cast a vote for Ron Paul is not voting in the best interests of the United States.&quot;

Wow!  You get to decide that???  I sure hope you aren&#039;t voting for John McCain because I would consider that a very Anti-America vote.  This is the guy after all who (1)wants to keep our Military in Iraq for a hundred years, (2) voted for that war, (3)voted to allow this country to suspend their morals and engage in torture, and a guy that hasn&#039;t a clue that the voters KNOW his (4)&quot;Gas Tax Holiday&quot; is an outright scam. 

BTW, they are likely to show McCain leaving the plane after returning from Viet Nam quite often during the the next few months.  Great Campaign fodder???  

Well, watch it carefully.  Coming down from the plane, McCain is bent over and can hardly make it, while supporting himself with both hands on one side of the rail.  On the ground, walking toward the cameras, McCain has an exceptionally pained look on his face and a very decided limp.  Then he walks away from the Cameras with a completely normal gait???  Ooops, they weren&#039;t supposed to leave the cameras on him as he walked away???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, I must have missed something.<br />
&#8220;The “vote against America” statement means that someone exercising his or her voting rights in order to cast a vote for Ron Paul is not voting in the best interests of the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow!  You get to decide that???  I sure hope you aren&#8217;t voting for John McCain because I would consider that a very Anti-America vote.  This is the guy after all who (1)wants to keep our Military in Iraq for a hundred years, (2) voted for that war, (3)voted to allow this country to suspend their morals and engage in torture, and a guy that hasn&#8217;t a clue that the voters KNOW his (4)&#8221;Gas Tax Holiday&#8221; is an outright scam. </p>
<p>BTW, they are likely to show McCain leaving the plane after returning from Viet Nam quite often during the the next few months.  Great Campaign fodder???  </p>
<p>Well, watch it carefully.  Coming down from the plane, McCain is bent over and can hardly make it, while supporting himself with both hands on one side of the rail.  On the ground, walking toward the cameras, McCain has an exceptionally pained look on his face and a very decided limp.  Then he walks away from the Cameras with a completely normal gait???  Ooops, they weren&#8217;t supposed to leave the cameras on him as he walked away???</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but John, the &quot;crzies&quot; at Family Taxpayer Network outshine Illinois Review all the way.
Interesting -- at least there&#039;s lots of readers at Illinois Review as compared to the stupid FTN newsletter that no one reads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but John, the &#8220;crzies&#8221; at Family Taxpayer Network outshine Illinois Review all the way.<br />
Interesting &#8212; at least there&#8217;s lots of readers at Illinois Review as compared to the stupid FTN newsletter that no one reads.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just don&#039;t tar all rightwingers.  Even most conservative Republicans are embarrassed by the crazies at Illinois Review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just don&#8217;t tar all rightwingers.  Even most conservative Republicans are embarrassed by the crazies at Illinois Review.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob_N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob_N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arch writes, &lt;I&gt;&quot;I just wish people would learn to speak English when they live here.&lt;/I&gt;&quot;

Oh the irony of having to point this out to an Ill Reviewer...

ROFLMAO. Keep it up George, you&#039;ll have enough for amateur night at Zanie&#039;s Laff Factory soon I&#039;m sure. (At least you admit all your posts are jokes. On that we all agree, I&#039;m sure.)

I wonder if Jill is still researching whether sweet and sour or mustard sauce goes better with her &lt;a href=&quot;http://illinoisreason.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-chinese-eat-babies/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;General Tsao&#039;s Baby and Peppers&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arch writes, <i>&#8220;I just wish people would learn to speak English when they live here.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh the irony of having to point this out to an Ill Reviewer&#8230;</p>
<p>ROFLMAO. Keep it up George, you&#8217;ll have enough for amateur night at Zanie&#8217;s Laff Factory soon I&#8217;m sure. (At least you admit all your posts are jokes. On that we all agree, I&#8217;m sure.)</p>
<p>I wonder if Jill is still researching whether sweet and sour or mustard sauce goes better with her <a href="http://illinoisreason.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/the-chinese-eat-babies/" rel="nofollow">General Tsao&#8217;s Baby and Peppers</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ArchPundit</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against America

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote that is anti-American.

These are equivalent statements George.  You may not have the faculties to realize this , but a vote being against America is a vote that is anti-American.  I&#039;m sorry you missed the unit on prefixes and synonyms.

I just wish people would learn to speak English when they live here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against America</p>
<p>A vote for Ron Paul is a vote that is anti-American.</p>
<p>These are equivalent statements George.  You may not have the faculties to realize this , but a vote being against America is a vote that is anti-American.  I&#8217;m sorry you missed the unit on prefixes and synonyms.</p>
<p>I just wish people would learn to speak English when they live here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry 101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry 101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>george, you&#039;re clearly not very bright.

of course, voting for ron paul is not in the best interests of this nation.  I&#039;ll agree with you there.

Actually, voting for any republican is not in the best interests of america.

Republican=bad for america.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>george, you&#8217;re clearly not very bright.</p>
<p>of course, voting for ron paul is not in the best interests of this nation.  I&#8217;ll agree with you there.</p>
<p>Actually, voting for any republican is not in the best interests of america.</p>
<p>Republican=bad for america.</p>
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		<title>By: George Dienhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Dienhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay- I&#039;ll explain slowly, so you can understand...

The “vote against America” statement means that someone exercising his or her voting rights in order to cast a vote for Ron Paul is not voting in the best interests of the United States. It does not imply, in any way that Congressman Paul, or any voter, is trying to do harm to America. Any one with a 3rd grade education (you must have just missed out) can read and understand that. Sorry that my headline was written above you level of comprehension…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay- I&#8217;ll explain slowly, so you can understand&#8230;</p>
<p>The “vote against America” statement means that someone exercising his or her voting rights in order to cast a vote for Ron Paul is not voting in the best interests of the United States. It does not imply, in any way that Congressman Paul, or any voter, is trying to do harm to America. Any one with a 3rd grade education (you must have just missed out) can read and understand that. Sorry that my headline was written above you level of comprehension…</p>
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		<title>By: ArchPundit</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.

Prefix: anti-

   1. Against, opposed to

I learned that in 2nd grade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Prefix: anti-</p>
<p>   1. Against, opposed to</p>
<p>I learned that in 2nd grade.</p>
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		<title>By: George Dienhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Dienhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you undestand what you read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you undestand what you read?</p>
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		<title>By: ArchPundit</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>==A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against America

Being against America is materially different than being anti-American.

WTF?  Do you read what you write?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>==A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against America</p>
<p>Being against America is materially different than being anti-American.</p>
<p>WTF?  Do you read what you write?</p>
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		<title>By: George Dienhart</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>George Dienhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the intricacy of the English language is difficult for you, but there is a difference between being bad for America, and being anti-American. Maybe you should read what you write about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the intricacy of the English language is difficult for you, but there is a difference between being bad for America, and being anti-American. Maybe you should read what you write about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ArchPundit</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>ArchPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually that&#039;s the key difference to consider. Being responsive would not indicate any higher brain function, it would indicate a reflex.  She was blind so being responsive to visual stimuli could only be to some version of light if at all.

If she wasn&#039;t aware that makes the point for those who think the nearest of kin should decide what to do.  And by the actual people who examined her not be videotape, she was in a persistent vegetative state.  And while PVS is not a diagnosis that can be done in an autopsy, the autopsy was consistent with PVS.  The autopsy made one thing clear as well--there was no hope of recovery.  I feel bad for the family that insists differently, but the release you linked to claimed she could have been helped by rehabilitation. The autopsy specifically ruled that out.  If she wasn&#039;t aware, then there&#039;s no real point in the argument.  And you linked to the release that insisted she was not only aware, but also able to be rehabilitated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually that&#8217;s the key difference to consider. Being responsive would not indicate any higher brain function, it would indicate a reflex.  She was blind so being responsive to visual stimuli could only be to some version of light if at all.</p>
<p>If she wasn&#8217;t aware that makes the point for those who think the nearest of kin should decide what to do.  And by the actual people who examined her not be videotape, she was in a persistent vegetative state.  And while PVS is not a diagnosis that can be done in an autopsy, the autopsy was consistent with PVS.  The autopsy made one thing clear as well&#8211;there was no hope of recovery.  I feel bad for the family that insists differently, but the release you linked to claimed she could have been helped by rehabilitation. The autopsy specifically ruled that out.  If she wasn&#8217;t aware, then there&#8217;s no real point in the argument.  And you linked to the release that insisted she was not only aware, but also able to be rehabilitated.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob_N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob_N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, you were a nurse. How much diagnosing do you think is possible via a video of any sort (without benefit of scanning equipment, etc.)?

Don&#039;t lie.

Besides, you&#039;re changing the subject to pick nits about semantics. &quot;Responsive&quot; (your word) inherently results from being &quot;aware&quot; (Larry&#039;s word) of stimuli.

Even worms are &quot;responsive&quot; when poked with a fishing hook... (And no, I wasn&#039;t comparing Mrs. Schiavo to a worm, though I wouldn&#039;t put it past you to imply such.)

Mrs. Schiavo was &quot;alive&quot; only because of the machines to which she was connected and even then only in the most rudimentary of definitions: her heart was beating and some internal organs functioned with medical assistance. As Larry pointed out, half of her brain had unfortunately liquified due, originally, to her eating disorder and the ensuing medical condition it caused. She was gone in every sense, were it not for the machines.

Not too surprisingly, this is much like the frozen embryos you and other social conservatives &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; claim are somehow &quot;alive&quot;. Those clumps of cells must rely on cryogenic chambers for their suspended existence in limbo with Jack Frost and would not be able to survive on their own in any way, shape or form without that medical assistance (until they are incinerated after being abandoned, that is).

But you guys sure do &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B00E4D7173FF936A15750C0A9639C8B63&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;make a pretty penny off spinning these folks&#039; pain&lt;/a&gt;, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, you were a nurse. How much diagnosing do you think is possible via a video of any sort (without benefit of scanning equipment, etc.)?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lie.</p>
<p>Besides, you&#8217;re changing the subject to pick nits about semantics. &#8220;Responsive&#8221; (your word) inherently results from being &#8220;aware&#8221; (Larry&#8217;s word) of stimuli.</p>
<p>Even worms are &#8220;responsive&#8221; when poked with a fishing hook&#8230; (And no, I wasn&#8217;t comparing Mrs. Schiavo to a worm, though I wouldn&#8217;t put it past you to imply such.)</p>
<p>Mrs. Schiavo was &#8220;alive&#8221; only because of the machines to which she was connected and even then only in the most rudimentary of definitions: her heart was beating and some internal organs functioned with medical assistance. As Larry pointed out, half of her brain had unfortunately liquified due, originally, to her eating disorder and the ensuing medical condition it caused. She was gone in every sense, were it not for the machines.</p>
<p>Not too surprisingly, this is much like the frozen embryos you and other social conservatives <i>also</i> claim are somehow &#8220;alive&#8221;. Those clumps of cells must rely on cryogenic chambers for their suspended existence in limbo with Jack Frost and would not be able to survive on their own in any way, shape or form without that medical assistance (until they are incinerated after being abandoned, that is).</p>
<p>But you guys sure do <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B00E4D7173FF936A15750C0A9639C8B63&#38;#38;sec=&#38;#38;spon=&#38;#38;pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">make a pretty penny off spinning these folks&#8217; pain</a>, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Stanek</title>
		<link>http://archpundit.com/blog/2007/11/20/todays-tosser-the-entire-disaster-over-at-illinois-review/comment-page-1/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Stanek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Responsive&quot; is far from &quot;aware,&quot; Archie.  Do you dispute the videos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Responsive&#8221; is far from &#8220;aware,&#8221; Archie.  Do you dispute the videos?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob_N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob_N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to pardon them, Archie. Clearly, Bill Clinton&#039;s long, hard sax made them do it -- maybe it was the shining gleam or the smooth, rhythmic sounds it makes.

(Hope the move went smoothly, George.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to pardon them, Archie. Clearly, Bill Clinton&#8217;s long, hard sax made them do it &#8212; maybe it was the shining gleam or the smooth, rhythmic sounds it makes.</p>
<p>(Hope the move went smoothly, George.)</p>
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