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Apologizing and Clarifying

December 12, 2006 By: ArchPundit Category: Uncategorized

A response to this post is from Elizabeth Edwards and her comments can be found here–for a lot of reasons I believe this is actually Elizabeth Edwards and as soon as I finish this post I’ll follow it up with an e-mail.

Usually I would let a post like this slide, figuring life is short and no one bats 1000%. But I also know how lore is built, particularly on the internet. The post itself is a great example of that actually, moving from a post elsewhere about the 2004 differences between David Axelrod and me (David Axelrod knows that I like him personally then and now) to a conclusion in this post that I was, well, a pretty awful sort of person altogether, with an odd reference to Mudcat Saunders. Mudcat and I are a dear friends; I have always respected him and I think the feeling is reciprocated. It has been that way from the beginning and I have remained one of his strongest cheerleaders. The post is simply wrong. Wrong on the facts but most wrong in the huge leaps it takes.

But listen, wives have a tough time in this. Do I want the best for John? You bet, but not one smidgen more than Christie Vilsack or Cindy McCain do for their husbands. And these women will — when and if the time comes — spend a lot of themselves in the campaign that bears their husband’s — and their — name. They will know although it is not their campaign, it is their life that will be affected. It was unfair in 1992 to suggest that Hillary not speak up in Bill Clinton’s campaign; it is unfair to suggest that if one of us expresses our opinions, pro or con, on anything that we are being petty and certainly unfair to suggest that we are being vindictive.

You can have at me. You don’t have to like all you see. None of us ever expects to bat 1000%. But — and this is not just for me but for all the spouses — be fair.

First, an apology–the post wasn’t clear in what I was saying and several other people I talked to noted that to me. I’m sorry for giving the impression that she has a bad relationship with the two people listed, though I think it’s safe to say the professional relationships were strained at times. It was sloppy writing and I’m sorry for hurting Elizabeth Edwards’ feelings. She is an incredible woman and doesn’t deserve that.

Second, the point I was trying to make was that she has people who absolutely love her and people who absolutely hate her. I think that’s very accurate and even her strongest advocates will say that. I don’t see that as a bad thing because one thing that such loyalty brings are people who will work their asses off for you and I intended for the point to be made with the rhetorical question of what is the problem then? What is clear in my mind isn’t always so clear in my writing. There are a couple testimonials to her in comments that fit with other descriptions I’ve heard previously and they are quite touching.

And the post isn’t about spouses only, though they often are the most frequent category of person fitting into this sort of problem. I think any candidate who had a remarkably talented wife would be stupid to not include her or him in the campaign–as some pointed out this sort of complaint that the wife is involved is often a sexist point.

The point was supposed to be far more narrow and clearly from the reaction, I didn’t make it very well which is my fault and I can’t blame Elizabeth Edwards or some commenters for calling me on it because I reread the post as a neutral observer I’d probably have come to the same conclusion.

So the point was supposed to be in regards to her handling of consultants and staff was problematic because she tends to micromanage and many would say she cuts people out of the loop. That’s a management problem. It’s also what probably endears her to those who love her and so it’s a double edged sword. But here is the key to what I meant:

The problem then? Campaigns cannot be run when the entire staff has to answer to someone outside the traditional hierarchy. It creates fear and people tend to avoid taking risks.

To me the problem isn’t the spouse is involved, it’s that in this case, as I understand it, there are problems with the way the campaign is managed with people answering to more than one voice at the same time. Elizabeth Edwards is free to disagree on that point as well–in fact, she’s welcome to a front page posting if she so desires.

It is great that she reads blogs and that she sticks up for herself. It shows one of many reasons she is considered very smart politically (as I did say–many think she’s the brighter of the two which is pretty high praise given John is pretty smart himself).

7 Responses to “ Apologizing and Clarifying ”

  1. # 1 Julie Says:
    December 12th, 2006 at

    “I’m sorry for hurting Elizabeth Edwards’ feelings”

    Christ, there you go again. Would you have said that if it had been a male spouse of a female cadidate? You didn’t hurt her feelings, you insulted her, ok?

  2. # 2 ArchPundit Says:
    December 12th, 2006 at

    “Would you have said that if it had been a male spouse of a female candidate? You didn’t hurt her feelings, you insulted her, ok?”

    Yes I would have said the same to a male spouse. Why wouldn’t I when her entire middle paragraph is about how her personal relationship with them is good? Seriously, if she is talking about how it mischaracterizes her relationship with two human beings, why wouldnt’t that be about her feelings? ok?

    Let’s go back to the original post–what exactly is the insult? I get that it implies sexism through the meddling spouse bit, but look at what the actual point was that I reiterated in this post. Is that not a legitimate point? How is it not?

    I’m happy to apologize for writing a sloppy post and for mischaracterizing her personal relationships. I am not, as I made clear, apologizing for saying she can be difficult to work with nor that her campaign management style is problematic. Both of those points are fair game.

  3. # 3 Julie Says:
    December 12th, 2006 at

    And for the record, I have never met Elizabeth, so she may not have even felt insulted. As a matter of fact, it looks like she made a strategic decision to make a statement to correct what she saw as misinformation or incorrectly interpretted information, nipping said “information” in the bud before it took on a life of its own. This is something Gore should have done early and loudly when he was mistakenly described as a liar. Also for the record, I voted for Dean in the Iowa caucus, but I like Edwards just fine, and I think El;izabeth is one classy woman.

  4. # 4 Cranky Observer Says:
    December 12th, 2006 at

    Who exactly besides a spouse (or similar close family member) could be outside the traditional hierarchy and yet have the power to influence the campaign? Even if a candidate has a Rasputin behind the throne, if that person is not a family member he actually is part of the heirarchy – although perhaps not in a way the formal staff members would like.

    Cranky

  5. # 5 ArchPundit Says:
    December 12th, 2006 at

    ==Who exactly besides a spouse (or similar close family member) could be outside the traditional hierarchy and yet have the power to influence the campaign?

    Think close friends and associates–the kitchen cabinet. The problem isn’t only related to spouses–there are any number of campaigns that have close friends doing the same thing.

    The problem isn’t the involvement, the problem, in my opinion of how smooth campaigns operate, is when decisions are being made that aren’t consistent between people at a similar level. So if the campaign manager and a friend of the campaign are going to mid-level staffers with different demands, a problem emerges. The friend or spouse or whomever should be involved, but that kind of action should probably come through the hierarchy to keep some sort of consistency.

  6. # 6 gethelp Says:
    January 3rd, 2007 at

    ArchPundit get help.

    Mudcat Saunders is choosing to work for Edwards 08 so I don’t know how anyone would trust you… Mudcat gave the opening statement for Edwards in Chapel Hill 12/30/06…

  7. # 7 Will Elizabeth Edwards Resign, Too? at Blog P.I. Says:
    February 17th, 2007 at

    [...] And we also know that while she holds no official position with the campaign, she has developed a reputation for usurping the paid consultants’ authority. In December of last year, she appeared in the comments of Illinois-focused ArchPundit to defend herself against charges that she led the ouster of star consultant David Axelrod, who handled Edwards’ media in 2004 (but this time is advising Barack Obama). As ArchPundit’s Larry Handlin put it, during the previous campaign her handling of consultants and staff was problematic because she tends to micromanage and many would say she cuts people out of the loop. That’s a management problem. It’s also what probably endears her to those who love her and so it’s a double edged sword. [...]

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