Comments on: Now Getting to the Analysis of the Politics of the Presidential Nomination http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/ Illinois, From Misery Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:04:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Short Hair Style Idea http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7153 Short Hair Style Idea Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:12:14 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7153 If I were to really, really, think about it, is a great way to frame your point, especially when short hair style idea is taken into account. If I were to really, really, think about it, is a great way to frame your point, especially when short hair style idea is taken into account.

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]]> By: Politics: 2008 HQ » Blog Archive » Elizabeth Edwards http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7149 Politics: 2008 HQ » Blog Archive » Elizabeth Edwards Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:47:13 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7149 [...] That’s really the only time I (edit myself).  Not what I say or how I say it, but whether it makes sense to even try. Archpundit I thought it was worthwhile to respond, but in general, most of the attack stuff - in fact I think I even said in there, usually when I read stuff like this I just leave it alone.  That doesn’t mean you don’t draft something because you’re really aggravated (laughing), but then - you probably do the same  thing - don’t press send! [...] [...] That’s really the only time I (edit myself).  Not what I say or how I say it, but whether it makes sense to even try. Archpundit I thought it was worthwhile to respond, but in general, most of the attack stuff - in fact I think I even said in there, usually when I read stuff like this I just leave it alone.  That doesn’t mean you don’t draft something because you’re really aggravated (laughing), but then - you probably do the same  thing - don’t press send! [...]

]]> By: ArchPundit » Blog Archive » Apologizing and Clarifying http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7148 ArchPundit » Blog Archive » Apologizing and Clarifying Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:51:33 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7148 [...] A response to this post is from Elizabeth Edwards and her comments can be found here–for a lot of reasons I believe this is actually Elizabeth Edwards and as soon as I finish this post I’ll follow it up with an e-mail. Usually I would let a post like this slide, figuring life is short and no one bats 1000%. But I also know how lore is built, particularly on the internet. The post itself is a great example of that actually, moving from a post elsewhere about the 2004 differences between David Axelrod and me (David Axelrod knows that I like him personally then and now) to a conclusion in this post that I was, well, a pretty awful sort of person altogether, with an odd reference to Mudcat Saunders. Mudcat and I are a dear friends; I have always respected him and I think the feeling is reciprocated. It has been that way from the beginning and I have remained one of his strongest cheerleaders. The post is simply wrong. Wrong on the facts but most wrong in the huge leaps it takes. [...] [...] A response to this post is from Elizabeth Edwards and her comments can be found here–for a lot of reasons I believe this is actually Elizabeth Edwards and as soon as I finish this post I’ll follow it up with an e-mail. Usually I would let a post like this slide, figuring life is short and no one bats 1000%. But I also know how lore is built, particularly on the internet. The post itself is a great example of that actually, moving from a post elsewhere about the 2004 differences between David Axelrod and me (David Axelrod knows that I like him personally then and now) to a conclusion in this post that I was, well, a pretty awful sort of person altogether, with an odd reference to Mudcat Saunders. Mudcat and I are a dear friends; I have always respected him and I think the feeling is reciprocated. It has been that way from the beginning and I have remained one of his strongest cheerleaders. The post is simply wrong. Wrong on the facts but most wrong in the huge leaps it takes. [...]

]]> By: Rob Thompson http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7147 Rob Thompson Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:47:01 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7147 Obama voted for the Republicans' "Let's overrule Terri Schiavo's husband" bill? Is that correct? Damn, if so, that's seriously disappointing. Obama voted for the Republicans’ “Let’s overrule Terri Schiavo’s husband” bill? Is that correct? Damn, if so, that’s seriously disappointing.

]]> By: leo http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7146 leo Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:41:24 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7146 Frankly, I'd be happy with any of them except maybe for Hillary. That said, we're so much in the silly season with all of this. We won't come out the other end till the Summer -- or more probably the Fall at the very earliest. Frankly, I’d be happy with any of them except maybe for Hillary.

That said, we’re so much in the silly season with all of this. We won’t come out the other end till the Summer — or more probably the Fall at the very earliest.

]]> By: Rick http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7145 Rick Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:49:15 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7145 Yeah, I thought the suggestion of some sort of schism between Elizabeth Edwards and Mudcat and Jarding and Axelrod didn't ring true to me. In fact, it sounds like someone was repeating or creating a rumor as part of an agenda. It just doesn't pass the sniff test. An Edwards-Obama ticket in '08 would defeat McCain-Graham ticket by 80 electoral votes, easily. And Elizabeth Edwards writes blog comments. How cool is that?! Yeah, I thought the suggestion of some sort of schism between Elizabeth Edwards and Mudcat and Jarding and Axelrod didn’t ring true to me. In fact, it sounds like someone was repeating or creating a rumor as part of an agenda. It just doesn’t pass the sniff test.

An Edwards-Obama ticket in ‘08 would defeat McCain-Graham ticket by 80 electoral votes, easily.

And Elizabeth Edwards writes blog comments. How cool is that?!

]]> By: Julie http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7144 Julie Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:23:22 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7144 Good for you, Elizabeth, for having the guts to speak up for yourself. What a sexist statement by ArchPundit. A favorite tactic for attacking a male candidate with a sneak, indirect attack is to diss their woman, just to fluster the candidate, put them off their stride. Trying to remember the boo-hoo guy who cried when his wife was attacked. Was it Muske? Glad to see Edwards has something other than a Stepford wife. Keep it up, girl! As for the rest, I just hope we don't end up with one more in a long line of Democratic cold, dead fish losers to vote for, making us hold our noses as we do it. Good for you, Elizabeth, for having the guts to speak up for yourself. What a sexist statement by ArchPundit. A favorite tactic for attacking a male candidate with a sneak, indirect attack is to diss their woman, just to fluster the candidate, put them off their stride. Trying to remember the boo-hoo guy who cried when his wife was attacked. Was it Muske? Glad to see Edwards has something other than a Stepford wife. Keep it up, girl!

As for the rest, I just hope we don’t end up with one more in a long line of Democratic cold, dead fish losers to vote for, making us hold our noses as we do it.

]]> By: jonnybutter http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7143 jonnybutter Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:18:16 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7143 <i>Somewhere along the line [Obama] voted for a piece of big business legislation. </i> Which bill is that? Sirota <a href="http://notapipe.blogspot.com/2005/05/circular-firing-squad-part-2593-this.html" rel="nofollow">smeared</a> Obama for, among other things, voting against an amendment to the Bankruptcy bill which would have capped credit card rates - voted against because it would've overridden State laws. He voted <i>against</i> the Bankruptcy bill iself, but you wouldn't have gotten that impression if you'd only read the Sirota hit piece. I'm not committed to anyone in '08 yet. But this relentless targeting of Obama is nothing less than weird, AFAIC. Somewhere along the line [Obama] voted for a piece of big business legislation.

Which bill is that? Sirota smeared Obama for, among other things, voting against an amendment to the Bankruptcy bill which would have capped credit card rates - voted against because it would’ve overridden State laws. He voted against the Bankruptcy bill iself, but you wouldn’t have gotten that impression if you’d only read the Sirota hit piece.

I’m not committed to anyone in ‘08 yet. But this relentless targeting of Obama is nothing less than weird, AFAIC.

]]> By: RT http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7142 RT Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:00:54 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7142 This morning, Matt Yglesias quoted the NY Times saying, "in two speeches and a news conference, Mr. Obama called for universal health care — the issue with which Mrs. Clinton, the New York Democrat, was once closely identified — a battle on global warming and a timed redeployment of troops from Iraq." First commenter out of the box responded, "I hear he's also in favor of cold ice cream, warm, furry puppies and the smell of freshly cut grass," which I thought was completely unfair. While those may be long-settled issues in Left Blogostan, there aren't that many current Dem Congresscritters who would stand up for even two of those three. And if you're going to pick three issues for 2008 - not on how they'll play, but on what the serious problems are that this country and its people face - those are the three to pick. So Obama scored some points with me when I read that. And that was even before reading what archpundit said here @13. I think I'd still rather have Al Gore (right as rain from the beginning, and I think he's changed as a potential candidate - it was clear before that he was always playing not to lose, rather than to win) than Obama, and I've been a big Edwards fan from three years back, but if Obama is the Dem nominee in 2008, that'll be great with me. I really think we've got four topnotch potential nominees out there - Gore, Obama, Edwards, and Clark. I'd support any one of the four without reservation. It's just too bad we can't clear out some of the underbrush - the Bidens, Bayhs, Kuciniches, etc. - before we hit that sudden rush of primaries in January of 2008. Can't we have a better primary system? It's like the Kentucky Derby - the horses spend a year or more being prepped for the race, then it's over in two minutes. This morning, Matt Yglesias quoted the NY Times saying, “in two speeches and a news conference, Mr. Obama called for universal health care — the issue with which Mrs. Clinton, the New York Democrat, was once closely identified — a battle on global warming and a timed redeployment of troops from Iraq.”

First commenter out of the box responded, “I hear he’s also in favor of cold ice cream, warm, furry puppies and the smell of freshly cut grass,” which I thought was completely unfair. While those may be long-settled issues in Left Blogostan, there aren’t that many current Dem Congresscritters who would stand up for even two of those three.

And if you’re going to pick three issues for 2008 - not on how they’ll play, but on what the serious problems are that this country and its people face - those are the three to pick.

So Obama scored some points with me when I read that. And that was even before reading what archpundit said here @13. I think I’d still rather have Al Gore (right as rain from the beginning, and I think he’s changed as a potential candidate - it was clear before that he was always playing not to lose, rather than to win) than Obama, and I’ve been a big Edwards fan from three years back, but if Obama is the Dem nominee in 2008, that’ll be great with me.

I really think we’ve got four topnotch potential nominees out there - Gore, Obama, Edwards, and Clark. I’d support any one of the four without reservation. It’s just too bad we can’t clear out some of the underbrush - the Bidens, Bayhs, Kuciniches, etc. - before we hit that sudden rush of primaries in January of 2008.

Can’t we have a better primary system? It’s like the Kentucky Derby - the horses spend a year or more being prepped for the race, then it’s over in two minutes.

]]> By: dk2 http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7141 dk2 Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:56:29 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7141 Edwards is the candidate for the people! As long as he is in the top spot, I trust him completely to pick the V. P. of his choice. Minimum wage, Unions, Poverty (not just US - worldwide and has been on the ground in the Sudan) Universal Health Care Fixing the donut hole in medicare College for those who want it, Timed troop withdrawal from Iraq Restoring the broken image of the USA around the world. America is better than this, America can do better than this! ~John Edwards Edwards is the candidate for the people! As long as he is in the top spot, I trust him completely to pick the V. P. of his choice.

Minimum wage,
Unions,
Poverty (not just US - worldwide and has been on the ground in the Sudan)
Universal Health Care
Fixing the donut hole in medicare
College for those who want it,
Timed troop withdrawal from Iraq

Restoring the broken image of the USA around the world.

America is better than this, America can do better than this! ~John Edwards

]]> By: scott http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7140 scott Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:38:22 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7140 "He is strong on health care, his foreign policy experience is slim, but substantial for someone with his experience,..." What the Hell does that mean? “He is strong on health care, his foreign policy experience is slim, but substantial for someone with his experience,…”

What the Hell does that mean?

]]> By: Cordier http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7139 Cordier Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:33:20 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7139 Edwards at the top of the ticket and Obama as VP is how I see an unbeatable ticket. You can pick up the south (probably not the deep south), both coasts and the mid-west. Talk about a youthful and good looking admin! Hell, the spouses on their own are an excellent representation of the depth of intelligence in this country! Edwards at the top of the ticket and Obama as VP is how I see an unbeatable ticket. You can pick up the south (probably not the deep south), both coasts and the mid-west. Talk about a youthful and good looking admin! Hell, the spouses on their own are an excellent representation of the depth of intelligence in this country!

]]> By: Marathon Pundit: December 2006 &#187; Peoria Pundit http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7138 Marathon Pundit: December 2006 &#187; Peoria Pundit Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:18:30 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7138 [...] Archpundit has been following the commentary on not-yet campaign pretty well, and this post is a good place to start. [...] [...] Archpundit has been following the commentary on not-yet campaign pretty well, and this post is a good place to start. [...]

]]> By: michael http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7137 michael Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:17:18 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7137 Come on man, this is bush league: 70% of the blogosphere is over 30, and the largest ten-year range is 41-50. I expect that sort of mythology from Very Serious People, but you need to know this! Come on man, this is bush league: 70% of the blogosphere is over 30, and the largest ten-year range is 41-50. I expect that sort of mythology from Very Serious People, but you need to know this!

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