Comments on: Exit Polling http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/ Illinois, From Misery Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:27:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: So-Called "Austin Mayor" http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1571 So-Called "Austin Mayor" Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:37:49 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1571 Since "what next?" was asked, may I suggest "Don't think of an elephant" by Geo. Lakoff? It is a short read at 100 pages and is made-up of several essays. So you can read it an-essay-at-a-time in the bookstore if you contributed 'till it hurts and don't have the cash to buy it right now. Since “what next?” was asked, may I suggest “Don’t think of an elephant” by Geo. Lakoff? It is a short read at 100 pages and is made-up of several essays. So you can read it an-essay-at-a-time in the bookstore if you contributed ’till it hurts and don’t have the cash to buy it right now.

]]> By: Ralph http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1570 Ralph Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:04:04 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1570 We carry on with the fight... Who have we really had to believe in since Bobby was shot in that hotel kitchen in LA? Keep the faith, Carl. We carry on with the fight… Who have we really had to believe in since Bobby was shot in that hotel kitchen in LA?

Keep the faith, Carl.

]]> By: Carl Nyberg http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1569 Carl Nyberg Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:40:28 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1569 I got a snide letter published in the Sun-Times questioning Bush's legitimacy. But the reality is that even if he stole Florida and Ohio, he still got alot of votes. Way more than he deserved based on his policy achievements justify. Voting is driven by emotion. What's up next? I got a snide letter published in the Sun-Times questioning Bush’s legitimacy.

But the reality is that even if he stole Florida and Ohio, he still got alot of votes. Way more than he deserved based on his policy achievements justify.

Voting is driven by emotion. What’s up next?

]]> By: So-Called "Austin Mayor" http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1568 So-Called "Austin Mayor" Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:08:59 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1568 <i>Why are so many refusing to believe the boxes are rigged, and instead going out of their way to argue why we lost?</i> No one is "arguing why we lost"... he is <i>explaining</i> why the two sets of numbers are substantially different. I think entering into an investigation of whether this particular election was stolen is a waste of time and energy. Even if we could prove to ourselves that we should have won the electoral numbers, we would still have to figure out why -- despite the Democrats being better financed and organized than ever -- <i>three million more</i> people voted for the Worst President Ever. Those voters are not all stupid and bigoted. We need to find a way to better communicate our values and principles to those people. If we can figure that out -- and I fully believe we can -- more people will vote for Democrats and we will not need to try to play accounting tricks like the GOPers. Why are so many refusing to believe the boxes are rigged, and instead going out of their way to argue why we lost?

No one is “arguing why we lost”… he is explaining why the two sets of numbers are substantially different.

I think entering into an investigation of whether this particular election was stolen is a waste of time and energy. Even if we could prove to ourselves that we should have won the electoral numbers, we would still have to figure out why — despite the Democrats being better financed and organized than ever — three million more people voted for the Worst President Ever.

Those voters are not all stupid and bigoted. We need to find a way to better communicate our values and principles to those people. If we can figure that out — and I fully believe we can — more people will vote for Democrats and we will not need to try to play accounting tricks like the GOPers.

]]> By: ArchPundit http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1567 ArchPundit Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:56:30 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1567 No, I just understand polling fairly well. Look, there was a big turnout in rural areas, small towns, and exurbs with lots of conservative evangelicals. That this threw off the raw numbers isn't surprising. No, I just understand polling fairly well. Look, there was a big turnout in rural areas, small towns, and exurbs with lots of conservative evangelicals. That this threw off the raw numbers isn’t surprising.

]]> By: Night Owl http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1566 Night Owl Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:50:35 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1566 <i>once they were weighted for turnout which happens after the polls close</i> The tortured justifications by for this theft is getting out of hand. Turnout after the polls closed was overwhemingly in <b>Democratic</b> precincts (Cuyahoga County reported last) because the big turnout and voting inefficiencies meant that they had to stay open longer. By your own logic then, Dems should have had an even GREATER tally than what the exit polls. Why are so many refusing to believe the boxes are rigged, and instead going out of their way to argue why we lost? Talk about living in denial. Posts like this just show that too many of us are MORE brainwashed than Republicans. once they were weighted for turnout which happens after the polls close

The tortured justifications by for this theft is getting out of hand.

Turnout after the polls closed was overwhemingly in Democratic precincts (Cuyahoga County reported last) because the big turnout and voting inefficiencies meant that they had to stay open longer. By your own logic then, Dems should have had an even GREATER tally than what the exit polls.

Why are so many refusing to believe the boxes are rigged, and instead going out of their way to argue why we lost?

Talk about living in denial. Posts like this just show that too many of us are MORE brainwashed than Republicans.

]]> By: ArchPundit http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1565 ArchPundit Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:25:05 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1565 You can't have enough poll watchers so you make sure you can get the demos covered at representative polling stations. Then, because you the number of rural districts is so hard to get to--you weigh the results by matching the precincts to those with the closest demographics and figure out the proportional turnout. You can’t have enough poll watchers so you make sure you can get the demos covered at representative polling stations. Then, because you the number of rural districts is so hard to get to–you weigh the results by matching the precincts to those with the closest demographics and figure out the proportional turnout.

]]> By: Ralph http://archpundit.com/blog/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1564 Ralph Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:20:35 +0000 http://69.89.31.63/~archpund/2004/11/05/exit-polling/#comment-1564 Ummm...why would you weight exit polls for turnout? Just curious. Ummm…why would you weight exit polls for turnout?

Just curious.

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